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meta也开始出租算力了
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上一个出租算力的是XAI
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马斯克metal呢也开始学习他的打法
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以战养战
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把这些多余的啊
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或者说老旧的一些算力呢租出去
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他这个策略到底对AI硬件影响大不大呢
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肯定有影响
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你说算力目前是过剩啊
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还是紧缺呢
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我觉得肯定没有过剩
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但是呢目前最大的问题就是这些纳德七威啊
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这个科技巨头啊
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他们也烧不起了
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我看了一下卖他最近这几年的烧钱速度啊
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光VR眼镜亏了大概830个亿
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再加上这个数据中心投入啊
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数据中心24年投入390亿
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然后25年投了七百五十七百二十二亿
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然后26年要投1000多亿啊
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1000多亿什么概念呢
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meta上个季度他挣多少钱呢
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挣了大概两百五六十亿吧
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比如他把全年的利润全部投完
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还得亏个还得借个两三百个亿
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因为他26年的目标是要投1250个亿
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其实这种烧钱速度
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我觉得没有一家公司能够抵挡的啊
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所以他现在出租这些过剩的啊数据中心啊
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老旧的这些GPU其实是个好事啊
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最起码呢能够延长它的折旧速度啊
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这就是它的产品的生命期限啊
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降低它的折旧速度
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实际上这个呢嘿对meta是个好事
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但对硬件公司呢不见得是好事啊
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因为接下来会出现几种问题
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第一个呢如果啊这些老旧的算力呢出租出去啊
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对这些二三线的这些数据中心呢是个打击
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那第二个呢XAI啊
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包括meta呢
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他们大模型发现追不上
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而SHOPPIA啊追不上他的EBT
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追不上这么台之后呢
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他们也就放弃了这方面啊
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开始主要是做服务了
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做服务完之后呢
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最大问题就开始给硬件开始谈判了
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所以接下来我看到一个问题啊
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就是硬件厂家的话语权啊
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就不像刚开始这么强啊
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比如说你再做到80%的净利润
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这个是很难很难的
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因为道理很简单
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这个市场如果只剩下啊
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比如说原来是十几家开始抢GPU啊
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抢这些存储啊
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那这个大家可以坐地起价
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那如果最后呢就剩下三家大模型啊
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或者两家大伯琴的时候
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那这时候呢大家都开有意见权
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因为没有人着急了
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对不对
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这就是目前最致命问题
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就是算力肯定还会继续稀缺啊
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这个包括这些存储还会缺
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但是呢液压能力呢都上来了
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所以你接下来会看到一个情况呢
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就是就每一家都找到自己的定位啊
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第一个呢不会无限制的烧钱对吧
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因为烧钱这个就人才和这种硬件大战
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也是卖他搞起来的啊
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但现在叫停的也是它
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所以你会发现接下来市场都理性了
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所以明年的开支啊
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包括这种精细化运营程度呢
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会比现在要强的多得多
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所以在这些硬件厂家呢想赚这种暴利呢
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也肯定不如以前了
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那还有一条呢
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一年的问题在于说资本开支太大是吧
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我看了看那个美光啊
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进一个晶圆厂啊
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投2000亿啊
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然后呢这个啊三星海力士啊
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说要投这个万亿美金啊
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继续建晶圆厂
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其实这个投入呢会带来一个问题啊
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比如说5年之后扩产
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那5年之内你赚的所有钱全部投运期
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等到5年之后建成了
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开始赚钱的时候
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发现市场的这个哈价格下来了呵
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这就是这个这个行业最大的问题
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实际上我觉得这个AI战啊
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最终最终的话权在谁手里面呢
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就是谁掏钱是吧
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谁掏钱谁说了算
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这个世界上不可能说是吧
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这个是吧
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成为一个卖方市场
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肯定还是买方市场对吧
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谁是最终的买家
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那谁说了算
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而是像苹果这种啊
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谷歌这种啊
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包括这亚马逊啊
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啊包括这个微软啊
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这些企业才是应该是说了算的
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如果说我是卖方市场
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会带来一个问题是什么呢
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就是过剩啊
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比如说你不断涨价
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那我看了看谷歌
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还有这个还有咳
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微软的这个鱼也开始涨价了
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涨价带来的结果是什么呢
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就跟今年的有色一样对吧
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铜啊
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铝啊都在纷纷暴涨
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报的结果是需求减少
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需求减少之后呢
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供应其实并没有减少
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因为你还在扩产吗
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你的硬件一再拖下去
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你是不可能停的
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你只要是不断的扩产
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但它的优势统一的过剩
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然后进入下一个周期
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所以说你说所有的周期呢
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我觉得都会重复的
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不可能说在AI周期里面
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这些东西是失灵的
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因为道理很简单
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互联网时代呢它没有边际成本
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硬件不一样啊
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硬件的话是你要多少算力
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你得投多少这个硬件
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所以这个这个商业模式
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我觉得最后的话肯定还是回到一个正常的估值
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所以说你再过个两三年
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你发现一年的利润肯定会下来了